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Thomas Warren

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  • Name  Thomas Warren 
    Born  25 May 1604  Ripple, Canterbury, County Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Died  20 Dec 1677  Surry, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I12101  My Genealogy
    Last Modified  19 Nov 2012 

    Father  William Warren,   b. 7 Mar 1596, Ripple, Canterbury, County Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1631, Ripple, Canterbury, County Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother  Catherine Gookin,   b. 1597, Canterbury, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1652, Ripple, Canterbury, County Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  1 Jun 1619  Ripple, Canterbury, County Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F4952  Group Sheet

    Family 1  Susan Greenleafe,   b. Abt 1611, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Surry, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  25 May 1634  Charles City, Charles City, Virginia, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. John R. Warren,   b. 1640, Rappahannock, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 24 Sep 1670
     2. Richard Warren,   b. 1641, Rappahannock, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     3. Thomas Warren,   b. 9 Jan 1644, Rappahannock, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     4. Alice Warren,   b. 1645, Surry, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified  30 Jul 2006 
    Family ID  F3119  Group Sheet

    Family 2  Elizabeth Spencer,   b. 1624, Surry, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married  25 Sep 1654  Charles City, Charles City, Virginia, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Mary Elizabeth Warren,   b. Abt 1655, Surry, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Mar 1681, Surry, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified  27 Dec 2003 
    Family ID  F3118  Group Sheet

    Family 3  Jane Allen 
    Married  1 Jan 1658  Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Thomas Warren,   b. 9 Jan 1659,   d. 1721
     2. Allen Warren,   b. 1663, Surry, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1738
     3. Robert Warren,   b. 1667, Surry, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1721
     4. William Warren,   b. 1669, Surry, Virginia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified  30 Jul 2006 
    Family ID  F4914  Group Sheet

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 25 May 1634 - Charles City, Charles City, Virginia, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 25 Sep 1654 - Charles City, Charles City, Virginia, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 1 Jan 1658 - Virginia, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 20 Dec 1677 - Surry, Virginia, USA Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • bpt Ripple, Co. Kent, England, 30 Jan 1624: w/d 16 Mar 1669 w/p 21 Apr 1670 , Surry Co., Va by eldest son William. The original will was in evidence in a lawsuit in 1712 over the original title to the Smith Fort plantation lands purchased from Thomas Rolfe, son of Pocahantas, but apparently was unrecorded and has not been traced since.

      The immigrant William Powell and his son George owned property on Chippokes Creek, 2 Feb 1652, refers to a commission of administration granted to Thomas Warren for the credits goods of George Powell, planter, on behalf of Mary Powell, orphan. (Warringe/Warren) It was customary for administration be be granted to near kin. (lived in Jamestown) About 1651 Thomas Warren Sr. built a house at Smithy's Fort Plantation on land purchased from Thomas Rolfe, son of Princess Pocohantas. Having inherited this from her bother William upon his death in 1670, Alice Warren Marriott and her husband Matthias sold the house and a tract of land to John Salway, 23 Jul 1673. The Warren House now belongs to the Assoc. for Preservation of Virginia Antiquities, a gift from John D. Rockefeller, Jr. Though it has been called the oldes house of authentic record still standing in English America,
    • (Research):Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about Thomas Warren
      Name: Thomas Warren
      Year: 1635
      Place: Virginia
      Family Members: Wife Susan Greeneleafe
      Source Publication Code: 6220
      Primary Immigrant: Warren, Thomas
      Annotation: Record of 20,000 very early immigrants, with much relevant information. Taken from Patent Books 1 through 5. Title page states, "In 5 volumes," but up to 1979 only three had appeared. See nos. 6221 and 6223 for second and third volumes, published in 1977
      Source Bibliography: NUGENT, NELL MARION. Cavaliers and Pioneers: Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, 1623-1666. Vol. 1. Richmond [VA]: Dietz Printing Co., 1934. 767p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1983.
      Page: 34
      Source Citation: Place: Virginia; Year: 1635; Page Number: 34.
      Source Information:
      Gale Research. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.
      Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2010.

      Note:
      The records are somewhat confused on the Thomas who immigrated to Virginia and married Susan Greenleaf. Susan came to America in 1620 aboard the JONATHAN with her children, Thomas age 3 years and Ann aged 22 weeks. She was 23 years old. Thomas and Susan were married in 1634. In 1635 he patented 300 acres of land in Charles City County, Virginia. Part was in Susan's name for her personal adventure. Part was "for her former husband, Robert Greenleaf, being an ancient planter in the time of Sir Thomas dale" and the remainder in being due to Thomas for his personal adventure and transportation of two persons into Virginia, John Fonke and Ruth Whitfield.
      Source: "Early Settlers of Lee Co., VA & adjacent Counties, Vol II" by Hattie Bales

      Many genealogies list Thomas Warren of Surry Co., VA and Susan Greenleaf, widow of Robert Greenleaf as parents of these Warrens. At least six Warren families may have been in Virginia at the time of John R. Warren! In the Virginia Archives there is a 1635 patent listed to 2 men for the transport of the same 2 people showing both men Thomas Markham & Thomas Warren being the husband of Mrs. Susan Greenleafe relict of Robert Greenleafe, we now learn Robert Greenleafe did not die until after 1637. According to Dr. Holland Warren's book p 344 Mrs Susan Greenleafe, second husband was Thomas Markham, not Thomas Warren. Compare the northern neck land grants for this Thomas Warren and notes for Thomas Markham, listed under Robert Greenleaf.

      William Warren and Ann, of York and Gloucester Counties, may be a more likely choice according to Dr. Holland Warren, who has devoted years of research to this family. He feels that the above referenced land grant may be an error, as a Thomas Markham was also listed on the same transaction. This could mean that Thomas and Susan Greenleaf may not have been married, rather Thomas Markham and Susan Greenleaf. Needs further study. Our lineage is not dependant on this marriage, according to Norma Kirchhofer, Warren family genealogist.

      LDS MARRIAGE RECORDS:
      Genealogical Index™ v4.01 North America
      IGI Record Thomas WARREN Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse: Susan GREENLEAF Marriage: 1634
      Charles City, Virginia Source Information: Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type 7029612 - 0538683 Film NONE Sheet: 84 Gender: M Marriage: 1634 Charles City, Virginia
      © 1999 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. English approval: 3/1999

      Note: Lineage verified by CD/CD17/AFF The National Society of The Colonial Dames of America;National Society Colonial Dames XVII Century;Sons and Daughters of America's First Families

      Note:
      Thomas Warren + Mrs. Susan Greenleafe

      Susan Greenleafe is a qualified ancestor for the Order of Descentant's of Ancient Planters it applies to persons who arrive in Virginia before 1616 remained for a period of 3 years paid there passage and survived the Indian Massacre of 1622

      Jamestown Society reference says: Order of descendants of Ancient Planters you must:
      arrive in Virginia before 1616 remained for a period of 3 years, paid their own passage & survive the Massacre of 1622 as well as receiving the first Patent of land in the New World as authorized by Sir Thomas Dale in 1618

      Virginia Land patents records of 1635 show that Thomas & Susan Warren, "Relict of Robert Greenleafe" were deeded 300 acres of land between them. it also shows the same information on a Thomas Markham

      Mrs. Susan Greenleaf came to America in 1620 aboard the Jonathan with her children.

      Thomas Greenleafe age 3 years and Ann Greenleafe age 22 weeks. She was 23 years old. Thomas and Susan were married 1634. In 1635 he patented 300 acres of land in Charles City Co., Virginia. Part was in Susan's name for her personal adventure Part was for her fomer husband Robert Greenleaf being an ancient planter in the time of Sir Thomas Dale and the remainder in being due to Thomas Warren for his personal adventure and transportation of two persons into Virginia, John Fooke and Ruth Whitfield
      NOTE: This same patent was also listed under the name of Thomas Markham for the transportation of the same people, John Fooke & Rich Whitfield.. showing Susan Greenleafe as a relict of Robert Greenleafe.
      NOTE In Dr, Holland Warren book he says Mrs. Susan Greenleafe 2nd husband was Thomas Markham p344

      Pg. 34
      THOMAS WARREN 300 acres, Chas City, Co., 20 Nov. 1635, p 314. S upon Bayliffs - E upon the main woods. W upon the river, & N upon 4 mile creek. 150 acres in right of his wife Susan Greeneleafe the relict of Robert Greeneleafe 50 acres due for her per ad & 100 for sd Robert her former husband being an Ancient Planter in the time of Sir Thomas Dale, 50 acs. due sd. Warren for his own per adv & 100 acs for the trans of 2 Servts. John Fooke, Rich. Whitfield. Copy held by James Scott
      Warren, Thomas. Publication 20 November 1635. Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41. Related See also the following surname(s): Warrin. Note Location: Charles City County. Description: 300 acres south upon Bayliffes__E___ Wt. upon the river, north upon the Four Mile Creeke.
      Source: Land Office Patents No. 1, 1623-1643 (v.1 & 2), p. 314 (Reel 1). Part of the index to the recorded copies of patents for land issued by the Secretary of the Colony serving as the colonial Land Office. The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia.

      Warren, Thomas. Publication 1 November 1669. Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41. Related See also the following surname(s): Warrin. Note Location: Surry County. Description: 450 acres beginning and extending so down by the swamp side to the first mentioned tree. Source: Land Office Patents No. 6, 1666-1679 (pt.1 & 2 p.1-692), p. 263 (Reel 6). Part of the index to the recorded copies of patents for land issued by the Secretary of the Colony serving as the colonial Land Office. The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia.

      Warren, Thomas. Publication 3 February 1640. Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41. Related See also the following surname(s): Warrin. Note Location: James City County. Description: 290 acres at the head of the eastermost branch of Smiths Fort Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 2, 1643-1651, p. 146 (Reel 2). Part of the index to the recorded copies of patents for land issued by the Secretary of the Colony serving as the colonial Land Office. The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia.

      Early Virginia Immigrants 1623-1666----1635 Robert Greenleaf, Susan Greenleaf by Thomas Warren of Charles City, Virginia

      On the History of Cheshire we have a Thomas Warren child of Sir Edward Warren, kt & Susan Boothe that was buried December 1677 Prestbury, England and died Sandbach

      p169 Calviers & Pioneers Thomas Warren by Jas Warradine, Charles City Co., 8 July 1647 I believe to be our Thomas of Charles City Co., Va. who's children went to Amherst then to Lincoln Co., Ky. and finially ended up in Pulaski Co., Ky. Keep in mind that a art of Lincoln Co., Ky. was at one time a part of Virginia

      Note from Ardith Warren/Stone she says: Charles City Co. 1655-1665 p291 Westover (between Charles City Co. & Jamestown) 3 August 1665 Thomas Warrin by reason of his inability occasioned by long sickness Lam'nts is hereby exempted from all future personal services & taxes except Parish dues. I have "presumed" this to be my Thomas. Sir Edwards 2nd wife died 1597 his 3rd wife had 3 other children before she had Thomas so he was born ca1605-10 by 1665 he was ca 55 yrs old for that time I have found no other records on Thomas in Charles City Co. except the deed with Susan. 9/12/2002

      Source: Norma Kirchhofer
      Warren Historian

      293 Matthew Dr. Bleemel Estates
      Mt. Washington Kentucky 40047
      1-502-538-3385
      norma_kirchhofer@hotmail.com